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    Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Guest on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:47 am

    Normally I am not a huge fan of these "breeder traps." The mesh ones seem to have no water flow and get all algaefied. The plastic ones seem to have no water flow and my babies have actually been eaten through the little slits by adult fish! Not cool! So needless to say I have had the most amount of success by letting the babies (livebearers) be born into the main tank and catching them and transfering them to a fry tank.

    Yesterday I happened accross this at petsmart and thought I'd give it a try to save a higher percentaeg of the fry (I'm sure a lot get eaten in the main tank.) You can imagine it as being an air driven HOB filter. I'm really liking that it contains the fish on the outside of the tank so no fry can be eaten through the slits.



    It came with 2 different screens (different sizes) to cover the overflow so no fishies escape back to the main tank. It also came with a gang valve to fine tune adjust the flow rate. I like that all you can see from the main tank is the intake tube. Yes I breed my fish, but I still want the tank to look good as it's in my living room.



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    So has anybody used this product? I am excited about it but have only had bad experiences with breeder traps before. I'll let you know how it works for me. I guess my learning curve will be accurately determining when the female will drop her fry as I wouldn't want to keep her there for more than a couple days...

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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Sarge on Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:33 am

    Ha I am just as interested to see how this works. I think I would preffer that over loosing my whole tank to fry! lol. My nicest tank is fullllll! of tiny fish!

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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Guest on Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:42 pm

    I wouldn't keep the fry in there very long else their growth would be stunted. What you need is an uglier fry tank?

    I was thinking it would be way easier to catch them and acclimate them to the fry tank with this. Once the babies are born I'd release the mother to the main tank then move this contraption to the fry tank plugging it in for a minute or so repeatedly until the fry are acclimated to the other water. Once fry are acclimated, DUMP! right into the fry tank, lol. I'm too excited for this. I'm still working on step 1 = getting female to have babies in said contraption.
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    Post by zeketaz on Wed Sep 19, 2012 12:47 pm

    I was using those breeder boxes to raise angelfish fry in. Works wonders. Only problem I had cause the angel babies are so small is they would get stuck to the slats where the water runs out. Easily fixable though. Take one of the dividers and put filter mesh on it and put it in place.

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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by joefish72 on Wed Sep 19, 2012 1:46 pm

    I have one but I only use it for a fish holder while I take pictures of them.
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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Fern on Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:59 pm

    Ive heard nothing but good things about them! Salt folks are even using them as refugiums. You can swap it to be powerhead driven if you are handy, if you feel you need better flow.


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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Guest on Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:18 pm

    Right now there's just a small air pump attached to it. If more power/water flow is needed I'll try my bigger air pump before a power head, I'm thinking that might be a little too much. Still good to know just in case, or for some lucky salty to happen upon : )
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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Fern on Wed Sep 19, 2012 7:29 pm

    Well I was meaning the dorky dinky tiny ones.


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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Guest on Wed Sep 19, 2012 10:54 pm

    I don't think I've ever seen a dorky tiny one, lol.
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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Fern on Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:38 pm

    Ya they make them, usually run internal filters and stuff.


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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by zeketaz on Thu Sep 20, 2012 12:39 pm

    I used the one from my UV sterilizer when needed lol

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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Guest on Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:08 am

    I had the female pictured in there 4 days. NO BABIES!! So I think to myself this is cruel I'm putting you back and what do you know, she gets really skinny a couple days ago and today I cought 4 babies! Grrrrrrrrrrrrr. I normally find/save a lot more than 4 but my new black swords are super aggressive for swords and probably ate a bunch of them : (
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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by zeketaz on Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:18 am

    Don't feel bad for putting a fish in those unless the fish is huge and don't fit. I'd think of it as she was enjoying a break from all the other fish and not having to compete for food in her bloated state.

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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Guest on Sat Sep 29, 2012 10:28 am

    Bryan said the same thing!
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    Post by rcbows on Thu Oct 18, 2012 8:59 am

    I was going through the posts and saw (Fry savers and breeder "traps"), you said you got it at Petco, I looked online and couldn't find it. Do you have the URL page that lists it, I would like to try it. I have used the internal hang on traps, and don't like them. I had one success with it and multiple failures. Could you also update us on your success. Thanks. Wink

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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Guest on Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:29 am

    So far I haven't had anY fry born into this trap. Maybe I'm just bad at telling when the female will drop. I have has the females live in there for a week plus with no problems. I bought this at petsmart and it's made by marina.
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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by zeketaz on Thu Oct 18, 2012 10:58 am

    I used to use them to breed angelfish and they work great. Google Marina hang on breeding box. They come in different sizes. I would use them for a week or 2 then go up to a 5 gallon tank

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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by joefish72 on Thu Oct 18, 2012 12:35 pm

    rcbows wrote: I was going through the posts and saw (Fry savers and breeder "traps"), you said you got it at Petco,
    I believe they said PETSMART so maybe try there or Boardroom Aquatics has them for sure.
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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Fern on Thu Oct 18, 2012 2:46 pm

    Yes boardroom has a few sizes of them.


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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by rcbows on Fri Oct 19, 2012 7:25 am

    I went and got them at Petsmart yesterday. Haven't tried it yet but it looks good. I will put a pregnant fish in it today and let you know of the outcome.
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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Fern on Fri Oct 19, 2012 12:37 pm

    They are one of the best contraptions I have seen lately!


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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Sarge on Fri Oct 19, 2012 8:48 pm

    We just got one. Still awaiting the final results. The only I dont like so far is the noise it makes because of being air driven. The tank is in my living room right next to where i sit and watch tv so...but oh well if it works then itl be worth it. but i do like that is circulates its own water.
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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by zeketaz on Sat Oct 20, 2012 12:47 am

    Get a super mini water pump for it. I had shrimp in mine also and they did better in the breeder box than in the main tank.
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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by rcbows on Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:38 am

    I have a super mini water pump, I will try it is loud, I just turned the volume of air way down, turned the adjustable flow to the right and it quieted right down. The super mini water pump sounds like a good idea, although I did buy the large pump to save on electricity and shut off all the other pumps to my (38) tanks.
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    Re: Fry savers and breeder "traps"

    Post by Sarge on Sat Oct 20, 2012 11:51 am

    well mine is loud because it doesnt fill perfectly full with water. so it almost sounds like its boiling.

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